The Secto Viper is a great figure. He's the perfect Cobra deep sea diver and is an excellent match for the oddball BUGG. Sadly, they have gotten pricey and hard to find these days. Even worse is that we didn't get any cool repaints in the 2000's. This guy would have been awesome in 1985 Eel colors. (See NetViperX's site for a Copperhead repaint, too!) The mold was lost to Olmec toys, though. There's tons of content on them around the web.
Secto Viper Profile - 2002
Secto Viper Profile - 2014
Secto Viper at NetViperX's Custom Gallery - Don't miss this one!
Secto Viper at ARAH Gallery
Secto Viper by Colorviper05
Secto Viper at JoeaDay.com
Secto Viper by Dreadnokdread 1
Secto Vipers by ScarrViper
Secto Viper by Dreadnokdread2
Secto Viper by C-DGSM 2487
Secto Viper by jamietheteleviper
Secto Viper Swamp Base Diorama
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Thursday, May 16, 2019
Saturday, January 7, 2017
Diorama - Swamp Base
At my old house in Indiana, there was a ditch behind the fence that would pool water after rainstorms. In the early spring, one of the rains left a nice puddle of clear water. It was there for a couple of days, so the grass got waterlogged and the leftover fall leaves gave the whole scene a swampy look. I went out for a pretty elaborate set up. But, it was very cold that day. My fingers froze in the cold water as I set up the figures.
I had plans for this to be the beginning of a dio story. But, I didn't get all the photos I wanted due to the temperature and I never had another chance to get out before I moved that fall. This was one of the few times that I was able to get the Mega and Cyber Viper out and into dios. The focal point was supposed to be the Bronze Bombers Firebomb figure (a Secto Viper repaint) but I ended up looking at the Secto Viper instead.
This General shell was really beat up. I ended up throwing it into the trash rather than moving it. I did strip all the pieces, which I still have. I kind of wish I had kept the body. But, it was massive and broken in ways that couldn't be fixed. The Moray in the pics below got pretty beat up through my various moves and is in nowhere as good of condition as you see below. In all, it was a fun setup with lots of obscure and bright Cobras.
I had plans for this to be the beginning of a dio story. But, I didn't get all the photos I wanted due to the temperature and I never had another chance to get out before I moved that fall. This was one of the few times that I was able to get the Mega and Cyber Viper out and into dios. The focal point was supposed to be the Bronze Bombers Firebomb figure (a Secto Viper repaint) but I ended up looking at the Secto Viper instead.
This General shell was really beat up. I ended up throwing it into the trash rather than moving it. I did strip all the pieces, which I still have. I kind of wish I had kept the body. But, it was massive and broken in ways that couldn't be fixed. The Moray in the pics below got pretty beat up through my various moves and is in nowhere as good of condition as you see below. In all, it was a fun setup with lots of obscure and bright Cobras.
Thursday, March 27, 2014
1988 Secto Viper
1988 was the year I quit collecting Joes. Without me obsessing over all the figures and vehicles, my younger brothers lost interest in the property, too. My youngest brother would get a few figures and vehicles through the next year. But, he never followed the line with the enthusiasm that I had. As such, most of the 1988 vehicles remained foreign to me until I returned to collecting as an adult. With the vehicles being absent from my childhood, the only exposure I had to the drivers of these items was through their appearance in the comic. Drawn on paper, many of the figures looked much cooler than their actual release. Others, though, didn't appear enough for me to really form an opinion. They looked interesting, but didn't make enough of an appearance for me to really care about them one way or another. Such was the fate of the Secto Viper. My exposure to him was a couple of brief comic panels. He looked interesting enough, but was not overly distinctive and was in line with the other Cobras of the time. When I found the first images of the figure in the mid 1990's, though, my opinion quickly changed. The Secto Viper was a figure I had to own due to its distinctive look and specialty within the Cobra hierarchy.
The Secto Viper's calling card is the 1950's sci fi inspired, clear, bulbous helmet. This topper is the keystone visual element for the figure and instantly conveys that the figure is either a deep sea diver or an astronaut. (Really, this figure would have been perfect for Star Brigade in 1993 or 1994, certainly a better choice than the TARGAT figure.) The yellow and black color scheme (with red highlights) is somewhat basic, but it is also effective for someone who would operate heavy equipment underwater. If you look at the mold, though, it is full of details that would be seen on a deep sea operative. The chest is covered with two rows of small hoses that would be the suit's air recycling system. It speaks to a self containment of the Secto Viper's uniform that would allow them to forgo bulky air tanks for quick repairs or escape should their BUGG be disabled under the water.
I have always liked the notion of deep sea combat. The unforgiving nature of the environment always added an element of danger and randomness to the battle. A simple cut into a deep sea pressure suit was a near instantaneous fatal injury as the deep water pressure would pulp the inhabitant of a perforated suit. So, the combatants in this realm would have to be overly cautious while still being aggressive enough to take out their enemy. For a time, this type of specialized battle was my primary focus. Figures like Deep Six and this Secto Viper could fight outside of a sunken Cobra base. With spotty communications at the depths, it allowed for unsupported danger that took only the steeliest souls.
Like many things in my collection, though, the fascination with deep sea warfare eventually passed. As more figures came into my collection, the possibilities expanded and the limited availability of deep water troopers helped to stifle that as a primary concept in my Joe world. Which isn't to say, though, that the Secto Viper hasn't retained some popularity. This is a figure who, today, finds his home on my Moray. I see Lampreys as more maritime troops for Cobra's naval operations. They are often the uniform of choice for Cobra Eels who are on a land based mission and don't want to wear a wetsuit while they are fighting. So, the Secto Viper becomes the primary aquatic vehicle operator for Cobra. In this regard, the figure sees more use. And, since the Moray is an open cockpit vehicle, the figure displays very well, much more so than as the driver of the BUGG.
The Secto Viper is an example of figure, though, whose value is heavily diminished if he lacks accessories. The figure's clear helmet is an essential element of the entire package. While open faced Secto Vipers can have uses, the helmet is required for the full experience of the figure as it completes the entire ensemble. Secto Vipers also included small, bizarre pistols. These weapons are difficult for the figure to hold in any position that is not drooping towards the ground. But, the odd design of the gun fits the look of the figure. With anyone else, this gun would be a tough sell to collectors. But, with the Secto Viper, it seems a natural fit. The 1988 vehicle drivers in general tended to be light on paint applications, bright in base colors and packed without accessories. The Secto Viper fits the first two traits, but not the third. And, in this case, the accessories were a perfect match that really accentuate the appreciation for the figure's design.
The 1988 and 1989 vehicle driver molds had three distinct fates. They were either: sold to another company, sent to India for use by Funskool, or tucked away in Hasbro warehouses where they were used on obscure convention figures or just forgotten about. The Secto Viper mold died an Olmec death. After it's use by Hasbro in 1988 and 1989, the mold went fallow. In the late 1990's, Hasbro sold the mold to Olmec toys where it was used to make the Bronze Bomber figure named Firebomb. This orange version of the Secto Viper is a nice companion piece to the Hasbro figure. But, the orange color and lack of paint details really don't bring anything to the mold you don't get from the original figure. All the molds sold to Olmec disappeared when that company was liquidated by the government. So, the figure was not eligible to appear in any future sets. In a different color, maybe as a companion to the Eel or in colors similar to Copperhead, the Secto Viper could be an amazing figure. It's too bad collectors never got the chance to see another take on the mold.
Secto Vipers have gotten quite expensive in recent years. Mint and complete with filecard samples often sell for as much as $40. Figures with just the helmet still often break $25. But, for a Cobra army building figure that has captured collector attention and has a unique helmet, a very small pistol and who was only available with an odd, higher price point vehicle at a time when Joe had no daily media to support it, that's probably about the right pricing. Collector tastes evolve, though. And figures like the Secto Viper can see pricing ebb and flow over time. In time, you might be able to get this figure cheaper. (Especially now that high quality reproductions of the helmet and gun have hit the market.) Personally, I like the Secto Viper, but find using him difficult. He has a role in the Moray, but that is limited duty for a figure that has such a distinct look. Perhaps, one day, I'll have a BUGG or Hammerhead which will be manned by various Secto Vipers. Until then, though, I'll have to be contect with him as the crew of the Moray.
The Secto Viper's calling card is the 1950's sci fi inspired, clear, bulbous helmet. This topper is the keystone visual element for the figure and instantly conveys that the figure is either a deep sea diver or an astronaut. (Really, this figure would have been perfect for Star Brigade in 1993 or 1994, certainly a better choice than the TARGAT figure.) The yellow and black color scheme (with red highlights) is somewhat basic, but it is also effective for someone who would operate heavy equipment underwater. If you look at the mold, though, it is full of details that would be seen on a deep sea operative. The chest is covered with two rows of small hoses that would be the suit's air recycling system. It speaks to a self containment of the Secto Viper's uniform that would allow them to forgo bulky air tanks for quick repairs or escape should their BUGG be disabled under the water.
I have always liked the notion of deep sea combat. The unforgiving nature of the environment always added an element of danger and randomness to the battle. A simple cut into a deep sea pressure suit was a near instantaneous fatal injury as the deep water pressure would pulp the inhabitant of a perforated suit. So, the combatants in this realm would have to be overly cautious while still being aggressive enough to take out their enemy. For a time, this type of specialized battle was my primary focus. Figures like Deep Six and this Secto Viper could fight outside of a sunken Cobra base. With spotty communications at the depths, it allowed for unsupported danger that took only the steeliest souls.
Like many things in my collection, though, the fascination with deep sea warfare eventually passed. As more figures came into my collection, the possibilities expanded and the limited availability of deep water troopers helped to stifle that as a primary concept in my Joe world. Which isn't to say, though, that the Secto Viper hasn't retained some popularity. This is a figure who, today, finds his home on my Moray. I see Lampreys as more maritime troops for Cobra's naval operations. They are often the uniform of choice for Cobra Eels who are on a land based mission and don't want to wear a wetsuit while they are fighting. So, the Secto Viper becomes the primary aquatic vehicle operator for Cobra. In this regard, the figure sees more use. And, since the Moray is an open cockpit vehicle, the figure displays very well, much more so than as the driver of the BUGG.
The Secto Viper is an example of figure, though, whose value is heavily diminished if he lacks accessories. The figure's clear helmet is an essential element of the entire package. While open faced Secto Vipers can have uses, the helmet is required for the full experience of the figure as it completes the entire ensemble. Secto Vipers also included small, bizarre pistols. These weapons are difficult for the figure to hold in any position that is not drooping towards the ground. But, the odd design of the gun fits the look of the figure. With anyone else, this gun would be a tough sell to collectors. But, with the Secto Viper, it seems a natural fit. The 1988 vehicle drivers in general tended to be light on paint applications, bright in base colors and packed without accessories. The Secto Viper fits the first two traits, but not the third. And, in this case, the accessories were a perfect match that really accentuate the appreciation for the figure's design.
The 1988 and 1989 vehicle driver molds had three distinct fates. They were either: sold to another company, sent to India for use by Funskool, or tucked away in Hasbro warehouses where they were used on obscure convention figures or just forgotten about. The Secto Viper mold died an Olmec death. After it's use by Hasbro in 1988 and 1989, the mold went fallow. In the late 1990's, Hasbro sold the mold to Olmec toys where it was used to make the Bronze Bomber figure named Firebomb. This orange version of the Secto Viper is a nice companion piece to the Hasbro figure. But, the orange color and lack of paint details really don't bring anything to the mold you don't get from the original figure. All the molds sold to Olmec disappeared when that company was liquidated by the government. So, the figure was not eligible to appear in any future sets. In a different color, maybe as a companion to the Eel or in colors similar to Copperhead, the Secto Viper could be an amazing figure. It's too bad collectors never got the chance to see another take on the mold.
Secto Vipers have gotten quite expensive in recent years. Mint and complete with filecard samples often sell for as much as $40. Figures with just the helmet still often break $25. But, for a Cobra army building figure that has captured collector attention and has a unique helmet, a very small pistol and who was only available with an odd, higher price point vehicle at a time when Joe had no daily media to support it, that's probably about the right pricing. Collector tastes evolve, though. And figures like the Secto Viper can see pricing ebb and flow over time. In time, you might be able to get this figure cheaper. (Especially now that high quality reproductions of the helmet and gun have hit the market.) Personally, I like the Secto Viper, but find using him difficult. He has a role in the Moray, but that is limited duty for a figure that has such a distinct look. Perhaps, one day, I'll have a BUGG or Hammerhead which will be manned by various Secto Vipers. Until then, though, I'll have to be contect with him as the crew of the Moray.
Wednesday, March 27, 2002
1988 Secto Viper
Back in 1988, I was pretty much out of Joes. I bought a couple of figures that year, but was pretty much done by the time summer rolled around. However, my youngest brother still liked Joe toys and picked up a couple of smaller vehicles and such throughout the year. I was also still avidly reading the comic. From these two sources I became familiar with a bizarre new Cobra vehicle called the BUGG. This thing is an interesting array of bubble shaped pods colored in odd shades of green and yellow. It was meant to be a tracked submarine whose primary use would be to defend the coast of the newly created Cobra Island. While this thing is very, very odd to look at, it has become a fan favorite vehicle and is about the only unrealistic, neon vehicle that has any real fan support. Alas, while I've always wanted a BUGG, I have yet to own one. However, while the vehicle eludes me, I have managed to acquire the very cool driver of this weapon: the Secto Viper.
The Secto Viper is the only Cobra deep sea diver type figure ever released. While I've used the Toxo Viper as a deep sea diver to battle Deep Six, Hasbro never really released any sort of Cobra diver who wasn't your basic frogman. While I know that this isn't a specialty that is high on most collector's wish lists, it is a gap. It is filled nicely, though, by the Secto Viper. As you can see from the photos below, the level of detail on this figure is amazing. The large, bulky torso is supported by the presence of air hoses that terminate around the head and can be explained as built in recycling gear. With his helmet in place, this figure is very identifiable as a diver. However, Hasbro wasn't just content to have a bare, nondescript head inside the clear dome. The went the extra step to actually sculpt a unique head for the figure that is complete with small detailing on the mouthpiece that just makes this guy that much more believable. As with other divers, as well, this guys neon yellow color scheme can be forgiven as he would mainly be used under tropical waters off of Cobra Island.
When I first saw the Secto Viper upon my return to collecting, I was surprised that the mold had not been reincarnated as a Star Brigade figure. The bubble helmet and bulky sculpt would have been fantastic as a new Cobranaut. Alas, it didn't happen and the underwater specialty remains the only version of this mold that was released. Of course, just because he wasn't released as an astronaut doesn't mean that he can't be used as one. In fact, during my Star Brigade crazy days when I amassed any astronaut-like figure I could find, I picked up extra Secto Vipers with that intended use in mind. Before I was ever able to get the Defiant, though, my interest in the space themed Joes diminished and I returned the Secto Viper to his original specialty. Still, though, if you are inclined to the space themed elements of Joedom, this figure is an excellent addition to your astro ranks. For me, though, he remains a Cobra deep sea diver. However, in recent weeks I've started making the Lamprey figure into less of a vehicle driver and more of a Cobra maritime infantry trooper. (It allows me to use Lampreys more often!) As such, I've been looking for new Moray drivers. As my deep sea adventures are now limited (no pool!) the Secto Viper had really not seen much use. As such, I'm thinking that my Secto Vipers will now become the definitive Cobra aquatic vehicle operator. I've said before that I like uniformity in my Cobra vehicle driver ranks. Making the Secto Viper a standard operator allows me to use him more while freeing up my Lampreys for more robust duties.
One of the main reasons why I wanted profile the Secto Viper is because he was only available as a vehicle driver. In the vintage Joe run, almost every vehicle came with a unique figure who was only (at least originally) available with that vehicle. As a kid, I bought several vehicles that were less than stellar because I wanted the cool figure that was included with the larger piece. The vehicle drivers as a whole tended to have very cool sculpts and often took chances that would later be incorporated into the rest of the line. With the new sculpt Joes finally on the shelves and the prospect of a large scale Joe revival now more reality than fantasy, old lessons like this are best remembered. I've passed on almost all of the vehicles that have been released in this new sculpt wave. Why? The vehicles themselves are kind of interesting, but the figures included with them are just uninspired repaints of figures that are currently sitting on the shelves. If, instead, the vehicle drivers were uniquely sculpted characters that showcased some real creativity or talent, then I would be much more inclined to buy the vehicle with whom the figure was packed. Hopefully, as the line matures, the days of the unique vehicle driver will return and we will be treated to awesome new sculpts rather than lame repaints.
Secto Vipers aren't too hard to find. For being included with a higher price point vehicle and never being offered via mail in, they are surprisingly available. However, if you want one mint and complete, though, the search gets a lot tougher. The Secto Viper helmet is a frustrating piece to track down. His unique little gun is even more so. As such, if you can find a mint, complete Secto Viper, he will cost you more than just about any other figure from his year. Still, though, that price won't be outrageous, it will just be high enough to preclude you building any Secto Viper armies. In all, though, I've found this figure worth his price. He is very cool, even if his specialty is less than stellar. I've always felt a BUGG fully equipped with a contingent of Secto Vipers would be very cool. I don't think I'm alone in thinking this. As such, there will be many collectors out there who either have multiple Secto Vipers or want them. Should the opportunity to add this figure to your collection arise, I would take advantage of it. He is a great addition to any Cobra army as has proven even more versatile that I had first anticipated.
I'm always interested in additional Secto Vipers. I also need a couple of their helmets and guns. If you have any of these available, email me.
The Secto Viper is the only Cobra deep sea diver type figure ever released. While I've used the Toxo Viper as a deep sea diver to battle Deep Six, Hasbro never really released any sort of Cobra diver who wasn't your basic frogman. While I know that this isn't a specialty that is high on most collector's wish lists, it is a gap. It is filled nicely, though, by the Secto Viper. As you can see from the photos below, the level of detail on this figure is amazing. The large, bulky torso is supported by the presence of air hoses that terminate around the head and can be explained as built in recycling gear. With his helmet in place, this figure is very identifiable as a diver. However, Hasbro wasn't just content to have a bare, nondescript head inside the clear dome. The went the extra step to actually sculpt a unique head for the figure that is complete with small detailing on the mouthpiece that just makes this guy that much more believable. As with other divers, as well, this guys neon yellow color scheme can be forgiven as he would mainly be used under tropical waters off of Cobra Island.
When I first saw the Secto Viper upon my return to collecting, I was surprised that the mold had not been reincarnated as a Star Brigade figure. The bubble helmet and bulky sculpt would have been fantastic as a new Cobranaut. Alas, it didn't happen and the underwater specialty remains the only version of this mold that was released. Of course, just because he wasn't released as an astronaut doesn't mean that he can't be used as one. In fact, during my Star Brigade crazy days when I amassed any astronaut-like figure I could find, I picked up extra Secto Vipers with that intended use in mind. Before I was ever able to get the Defiant, though, my interest in the space themed Joes diminished and I returned the Secto Viper to his original specialty. Still, though, if you are inclined to the space themed elements of Joedom, this figure is an excellent addition to your astro ranks. For me, though, he remains a Cobra deep sea diver. However, in recent weeks I've started making the Lamprey figure into less of a vehicle driver and more of a Cobra maritime infantry trooper. (It allows me to use Lampreys more often!) As such, I've been looking for new Moray drivers. As my deep sea adventures are now limited (no pool!) the Secto Viper had really not seen much use. As such, I'm thinking that my Secto Vipers will now become the definitive Cobra aquatic vehicle operator. I've said before that I like uniformity in my Cobra vehicle driver ranks. Making the Secto Viper a standard operator allows me to use him more while freeing up my Lampreys for more robust duties.
One of the main reasons why I wanted profile the Secto Viper is because he was only available as a vehicle driver. In the vintage Joe run, almost every vehicle came with a unique figure who was only (at least originally) available with that vehicle. As a kid, I bought several vehicles that were less than stellar because I wanted the cool figure that was included with the larger piece. The vehicle drivers as a whole tended to have very cool sculpts and often took chances that would later be incorporated into the rest of the line. With the new sculpt Joes finally on the shelves and the prospect of a large scale Joe revival now more reality than fantasy, old lessons like this are best remembered. I've passed on almost all of the vehicles that have been released in this new sculpt wave. Why? The vehicles themselves are kind of interesting, but the figures included with them are just uninspired repaints of figures that are currently sitting on the shelves. If, instead, the vehicle drivers were uniquely sculpted characters that showcased some real creativity or talent, then I would be much more inclined to buy the vehicle with whom the figure was packed. Hopefully, as the line matures, the days of the unique vehicle driver will return and we will be treated to awesome new sculpts rather than lame repaints.
Secto Vipers aren't too hard to find. For being included with a higher price point vehicle and never being offered via mail in, they are surprisingly available. However, if you want one mint and complete, though, the search gets a lot tougher. The Secto Viper helmet is a frustrating piece to track down. His unique little gun is even more so. As such, if you can find a mint, complete Secto Viper, he will cost you more than just about any other figure from his year. Still, though, that price won't be outrageous, it will just be high enough to preclude you building any Secto Viper armies. In all, though, I've found this figure worth his price. He is very cool, even if his specialty is less than stellar. I've always felt a BUGG fully equipped with a contingent of Secto Vipers would be very cool. I don't think I'm alone in thinking this. As such, there will be many collectors out there who either have multiple Secto Vipers or want them. Should the opportunity to add this figure to your collection arise, I would take advantage of it. He is a great addition to any Cobra army as has proven even more versatile that I had first anticipated.
I'm always interested in additional Secto Vipers. I also need a couple of their helmets and guns. If you have any of these available, email me.
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