Showing posts with label Slice. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Slice. Show all posts

Monday, October 23, 2023

2002 Slice

Wave 1.5 of the Joe vs. Cobra collection was meant to be much, much more.  Originally, it was going to have the 1986 Hawk mold for Tomahawk and the 1988 Shockwave mold for Sure Fire.  The inclusion of those molds would have drastically changed the makeup of the line and lead to a far greater appreciation of all the figures included in it.  But, they weren't included and the substitutes seemed like a retread since both figures had been released very recently.  But, there were a couple of new molds included in the packs.  Headman returned for the first time in a decade and now featured a great, tan suit.  His 1992 cousin, Slice, was the second new mold to return.  And, hidden among the Vipers and Alley Vipers that collectors desired were two great Cobras that offered nice updates to their other releases.

This Slice features some really strong paint masks.  In fact, this figure stands out among many of his contemporary releases.  The color scheme is something different.  And, while he features a base, red color, Hasbro, to their credit, avoided trying to make him "crimson" and gave him a lighter, brighter red base.  The figure still features the silver mask that is Slice's strongest appearance characteristic.  The rest of the body features a dark gray tunic, light grey legs and white highlights the range from a subtle outline of his silver face mask down to his bootlaces.  The white is bright and can be a bit stark.  But, it's also a color that doesn't often appear as the preferred color on a figure's hands.  In short, this is the most detailed release of the Slice mold and is the only one that really showcases the small details that were included on the boots, sash and arms.

This figure only exists because of collector backlash to Hasbro's first wave of JvC figures.  Collectors demanded the return of the o-ring.  So, Hasbro went back to retool it's Wave 2 figures.  That created a 6 month gap between Waves 1 and 2.  To offset this (but only slightly) Hasbro dropped Wave 1.5.  It was 8 classic o-ring figures with both a Viper and Alley Viper among the releases.  It was meant to appease collectors and hold them over for the new figures that would show up just a few weeks later.  Initially, the wave was super popular.  While collectors bought out the Vipers and Alley Vipers, even the Slice/Sure Fire and Headman/Tomahawk packs sold well enough.  Wal Marts got in several cases during the initial surge with many stores putting cut open boxes on the top shelves since there was no peg room.  

But, Wave 1.5 then kept shipping.  In short order, it backed up at retail all over the country and even the Vipers and Alley Vipers were super easy to find.  The entire wave saw overstock dropped into bizarre three packs.  And, eventually, the wave turned up at discount outlets as late as 2004.  Some stock was even dumped outside of the U.S. in Hasbro's attempt to find a market that would take on figures that had little retail interest left in them.  This wave is, likely, one of the most produced figure waves of the 2000's.  This means that the figures are relatively easy to track down today.  But, they also sullied what turned out to be a pretty decent wave of figures.

In 2002, I was a full on adult collector.  I was married.  I was on my second home.  I had three dogs.  (Well, actually, I bought my first Slice at a Wal Mart in Kokomo, Indiana when we stopped to get some cash to acquire my third dog.)  So, there's no childhood innocence associated with this figure.  But, upon opening it, this Slice really opened my eyes to the usefulness of some of the Ninja Force molds.  Even in 2002, I had no real use for Ninja Force.  The figures didn't appear in my photos of that era.  And, if you scour old profiles from prior to 2002, you'll see my personal disdain for Ninja Force in a couple of places. 

People, though, mature.  And, if you still, today, think exactly the same way you did in 2002, then you're  probably not a very serious person.  You can evolve your opinions as you both learn new information and gain more perspective from life experience.  This Slice started me down the road where I've found greater appreciation of the Ninja Force figures.  And, in many cases, I now like them.  The sculpts are very well done.  And, this Slice, in particular, didn't require additional bulk to accommodate the spring loaded action feature.  (Which is also included on this 2002 figure.)  So, it works very well with figures from any year.

Sadly, this Slice didn't include any of the cool weapons that debuted with the 1992 and 1993 figures.  those weapons were unique and looked great with Slice.  This 2002 version, though, included a silver version of the curved sword that was originally included with the 1992 Stormshadow.  (Thanks to Mr. Acer and Gen_Liederkranz for correcting that the sword originated with the 1992 Nunchuk.  The silver version originated with the 2000 Stormshadow which caused my confusion!)  He also has a black knife that was originally included with the Range Viper.  They're not bad accessories.  The sword works very well for Slice.  But, Slice just looks better with any of the gear from 1992 or 1993.  

The Slice body was used a full dozen times.  It had three vintage Joe releases of Slice and then two uses of the body for the Street Fighter Ryu figures.  It then appeared on 6 different figures in the Mortal Kombat Movie line.  Then, this 2002 release marked the dozenth time the body was used.  You can make a case that this mold should have appeared again during the repaint era.  He would have worked in the Ninja Strike set.  And, he would have been a nice swap out for the 2004 Urban Assault Stormshadow, too.  But, we probably have enough Slice repaints.  All his figures are good.  

Slices are super cheap.  Mint and complete figures can be had for around $6 or so.  You can get carded versions for under $11.  He remains one of the cheaper options for Joe figures.  And, unlike many of his 2002 contemporaries, Slice has yet to really discolor.  We'll see if that continues to be the case.  But, you can be sure there are plenty of Slice figures out there, many still MOC and they will never be expensive when compared to other figures in the line.  So, there's no reason to not have one of these figures as they are pretty nice, especially for the price.  So, get a Slice.  

2002 Slice, Wave 1.5


2002 Slice, Wave 1.5, Fast Blast Viper, Gift Set, 1993 Ninja Force Snake Eyes

2002 Slice, Wave 1.5, Fast Blast Viper, Gift Set


2002 Slice, Wave 1.5


Tuesday, November 22, 2022

1993 Ninja Force Slice - Around The Web

There was a time when Ninja Force was the least liked G.I. Joe subset.  But, in recent years, collectors have come to appreciate the figures from this small line.  While the figures do not feature standard Joe articulation, the quality of both the sculpt and the colors really shine.  The content created using the figures, though, hasn't quite caught up to the general acceptance of the concept.  There's some cool stuff out there using the 1993 orange Slice.  There just needs to be more.

Ninja Force Slice Profile








1993 Ninja Force Slice, Zartan, Flak Viper, Detonator, 1992 Dice, Night Creeper



1993 Ninja Force Slice, Zartan, Flak Viper, Detonator



1993 Ninja Force Slice, Night Creeper Leader



1993 Ninja Force Slice

Tuesday, April 10, 2018

1993 Slice - Ninja Force

Slice and Dice are kind of like Tomax and Xamot.  You simply can't look at one without acknowledging the other.  So, today's profile is a tag team effort with The Dragon Fortress.  He's going to review Dice while I take a look at Slice.  This way, both characters get their due and retain the tie that binds them together.

When I first saw Slice and Dice in the G.I. Joe comic book in late 1991, I was immediately drawn to the Slice character.  His sleek look and excellent head showcased something that I thought would translate well to toys.  I went looking for G.I. Joe figures at retail just one time in 1992.  That visit was sensory overload as the aisle was packed, everything was new to me, and I was on a time crunch since it was over my lunch hour and it took 20 minutes each way to get to the store.  So, the thought of looking for a Slice figure never really entered my mind.  In the ensuing years, it's entirely possible that I came across a Slice figure in my retail encounters.  Ninja Force figures were usually some of the last Joes on the pegs.  But, as I was generally not interested in them since there were other figure options available to me, I paid them little mind.  As an adult collector, I finally picked up a Slice in a general figure lot.  But, as the figure lacked standard articulation, I, again, gave the figure little credence.  Now, two decades later, I've found a quiet quality in the Slice figures Hasbro released.  The sculpting is good, the articulation isn't as off putting as it can be on other figures and, there are some striking color variants: none more so than the bright orange 1993 Ninja Force Slice.

In the summers of 1995 and 1996, I worked near the local Toys R Us store.  Especially in 1996, I would often go to this store 3 to 4 times per week.  I was mostly looking for Star Wars figures.  But, as those were almost always the same pegwarming Luke Dagobah and Han Hoth figures, I spent a lot of time looking at the straggling supply of Joe figures.  I had bought most every figure I wanted.  And, the good figures were few and far between.  What was not in short supply, though, were Street Fighter and Ninja Force figures.  As the Battle Corps finally sold out, I was left with few options for new Joes.  I picked up countless versions of the Street Fighter figures and would always put them back, unpurchased, as I simply could not get over the look of the figures.  One night, in 1996, I finally succumbed and bought a Ninja Force Night Creeper figure.  As soon as I opened it, I regretting buying him.  (Though, my stance on that figure would later change.)  This doomed any other Ninja Force from being added to my collection.

As the 1990's wound down, my Joe buying efforts were all over the place.  I bought early figures, I bought middle figures and I bought late figures.  I was desperate to get as much of the line as I could.  But, through all that acquisition, Ninja Force figures were few and far between.  It might be that I steered clear of lots that contained them as they didn't have enough, other material to make their purchase worthwhile.  Or, it might be that kids of the day didn't like those figures any more than I did.  Whatever the reason, it was a rare occasion to find a Ninja Force figure.  While I did manage to get a handful of the 1993 Ninja Force figures, this Slice was never among them.  While I obsessed over other, orange figures.  I left this Slice alone because of my lack of interest in Ninja Force in general.

In 2002, Hasbro released a Slice repaint.  Having this figure in hand reminded me of my comic interest in Slice.  But, it also got me thinking about the figure.  I wanted to find a use for Slice.  But, again, the non-standard construction was a limiting factor.  Now, though, as my collecting needs have dwindled to a very small pool of figures, I find Ninja Force figures generally more acceptable.  And, of the Ninja Force mold, I find Slice to be the best.  He lacks much of the bulk that the non-standard construction required and his movements don't necessitate blocky hips or legs.  He looks like a standard Joe figure and fits in with them just fine.  While some of his poseability is limited, he's not as stuck as other figures like Snake Eyes or Scarlett.

This had lead me to finally appreciate the Slice figure as much as I liked the original character in the comics.  The mesh face mask was always a look that I thought was extremely cool.  And, Slice's choice of headwear does translate into the figure.  The rest of Slice's body is relatively plain: befitting a ninja.  The contrast of the sleek, unique head and the standard, robed body helps to keep Slice from being too busy.  I now find him a near perfect rendition of a martial artist and an excellent foil to Snake Eyes and, if you're inclined, Storm Shadow.  It's taken me more than 25 years to finally come around the mold.  But, mostly that was due to inaccessibility.  With the figure in hand, you see that Slice has some decent uses and is fun to have around.

Slice's weapons are actually rather decent.  While the weapons trees of 1993 and much maligned, Hasbro did hit a home run every now and then.  For starters, Slice's weapons are cast in black plastic.  This makes a world of difference and not only aligns them with the figure's accent color, but also makes them more palatable to the eyes.  The weapons themselves, though, are nicely designed.  They are a bit large for the scale of the Slice figure, but still work.  For someone like me who grew up on the flimsy Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes swords, these larger, bulkier items took a bit of getting used to.  But, they work well with the figure.  The two sided knives are extremely cool looking.  The large sword with the hooked end is, as well.  There is also an axe, knife and spear that are both well detailed and in scale with the figure.  In short, Slice includes a ninja arsenal and all the weapons make sense.

There is a lot and a little done with the Slice mold.  The mold was used quite a bit in the vintage days.  In fact, I believe that Slice is the only character/figure mold to be released in three consecutive years (1992, 1993 and 1994) in three unique paint schemes in the vintage line.  (The 1992 Stormshadow mold was used three consecutive years, but the 1993 incarnation was as T'Gin Zu and not Stormshadow.  The 1992 Eco Warriors Barbecue was turned into Payload for the 1993 and two 1994 recolors.)  In that time, Hasbro did the original, red version, this orange version and a translucent Shadow Ninjas version.  While these figures were on the shelves, Hasbro also used the body for the two versions of the Ryu figure from the Street Fighter subset.  (If this figure was standard construction and could support simple headswaps, dropping a Slice head on either Ryu figure would make for a solid rendition of the Slice character, too.)  The body then also shows up in the Mortal Combat movie line where it was the basis for Reptile, Smoke, both versions of Scorpion and both versions of Sub Zero.  If that were not enough, the entire figure reappeared in 2002 in a 2 pack with Sure Fire.  That was the end of the mold, though, and Hasbro didn't come back to it, even though it could have found a home in the Toys R Us Ninja Pack or a later comic pack release.  But, there are no less than 12 retail appearances of the mold, plus a few international packaging variations.

This Slice version is pricier than I would have thought.  Mint and complete with filecard figures tend to sell in the $10 range.  Carded figures will also sell at nearly $20.  For a bright repaint of an obscure mold that's buried in an unpopular subset, that's kind of high.  However, in my years and years of buying up lots of 1993 figures, I never came across a loose Slice.  In fact, all of the '93 Ninja Force were scarce and I only got Zartan, Scarlett and Snake Eyes in one huge lot that also included a large number of other, harder to find figures.  But, if you take some time, you can find the figures at cheaper prices.  Many toy dealers who don't specialize in Joe will sell carded versions for $10.  So, you can take advantage of those deals before the supply dries up.  I don't know if Ninja Force is going to become the next cheap Joe subset to increase in collector popularity.  It seems that collectors fall into two camps on the subset.  They either were an early adopter who likes ninjas and has had the figures from the beginning.  Or, they have completed everything else and find Ninja Force the last, unexplored bastion of the vintage Joe world.  I squarely fell into the second camp.  But, I have found myself enjoying these figures, even if it's just because they are something new and interesting.  They are cheap and relatively easy to acquire.  And, that's goes a long way.  Were these $30 figures, I'm not sure I'd be spending the energy to get them.  But, at current pricing, I'm finding some joy in these late run oddities.

1993 Ninja Force Slice, 2005 Winter Operations Snake Eyes, TRU Exclusive

1993 Ninja Force Slice, 1989 Snake Eyes, 1988 Stormshadow

1993 Ninja Force Slice, 1989 Snake Eyes, 1988 Stormshadow


1993 Ninja Force Slice, Carded, MOC, Cardback, Filecard



1993 Ninja Force Slice, Carded, MOC, Cardback, Filecard